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    2 devices detonated at finish line of Boston Marathon.

    Based on video- devices were small low grade (most likely HME) ANFO as evidenced by orange smoke immediately after detonation. Most likely contained in steel pipe based on runner having tibia/fibia shattered approx 15m from detonation.

    Tertiary device found and controlled detonation performed by Boston bomb squad.

    Incendiary device reported to have been initiated in JFK Library with attendant fire.
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    I just saw that runner falling. wow..
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    Thanks, keep us updated Pat.

    HME = home made explosive?

    ANFO = ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbh View Post
    Thanks, keep us updated Pat.

    HME = home made explosive?

    ANFO = ??
    ammonium nitrate fuel oil explosive. and you're right about the HME
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    JFK Library fire is unrelated. Confirmed.

    One additional device located and deactivated.

    Got to be a pipe bomb the way that runner's leg was shattered. Bet that was an end cap. Definitely not jihadi style though... contaminated ANFO, piss poor initiation and small device with no packing of fragmentary items. Their TTPs are WAY better than that.
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    Here is the explosion a faction of a second after initiation:

    Red circle shows the orange smoke which is positive proof for ANFO.
    Bluish circle shows bright white smoke of a BP initiator.
    Purple arrow shows blast as directional.

    This is amateur night. ANFO pipe bomb... the tool of tools.

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    Latest is BPD is saying a Saudi national in custody at hospital.

    If it is a Saudi this guy is definitely a lone wolf type or part of a small cell of AQ crack sniffers. These guys had no outside support.
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    Currently a Penske truck is being looked for that tried to gain access to the site with "Medical supplies".

    THAT sounds like an AQ op and is mor ein line with their TTPs.
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    F**k me...

    Penske truck has tried to gain access several times to blast site immediately following explosion and has since tried gaining access to local hospital loading docks/garages.
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    3 devices detonated. Improperly mixed ANFO with a BP initiator in pipe bomb form. 2 others found- 1 destroyed in controlled detonation one deactivated by BPD EOD monkeys.

    Penske truck attempted to gain access to blast site and is now reported to have attempted to gain access to local hospitals.

    1 Saudi national in custody at this time
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    Keep us updated SFA...I'm getting better info from you than the news...

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    So wait, you're saying 3 bombs exploded?

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    It will be interesting to see if there is UAV IMINT...but definitely doesn't seem sophisticated enough for AQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by italiano17771 View Post
    So wait, you're saying 3 bombs exploded?
    Two at the race, one at the JFK library. Boston police are reporting no suspects in custody, and according to business insider the Penske truck was a false lead.

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    Local news just flashed that they're shutting down cell service in Boston. Bruins game has been cancelled. Obama to speak at 6:10 eastern.

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    Anybody hear that the last mile was dedicated to the families of sandy hook? That is where the bombs blew up...

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    Sorry was out of the loop for a while.

    Penske truck while an item of interest was not connected. BPD saying nobody in custody however "person of interest" is in local hospital according to radio chatter.

    3 devices initiated. 2 at marathon finish line, one incendiary device at JFK Library. No known connection however coincidences aren't always coincidences.

    I am just glad this was an episode of "The Keystone Cops Build IEDs" and not the work of someone who knew what they were doing. This could have been a LOT worse than what it was.
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    Still pretty incredible that the fatality count wasnt higher than it was. Hopefully that doesn't change, or not much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFA437 View Post
    JFK Library fire is unrelated. Confirmed.

    One additional device located and deactivated.

    Got to be a pipe bomb the way that runner's leg was shattered. Bet that was an end cap. Definitely not jihadi style though... contaminated ANFO, piss poor initiation and small device with no packing of fragmentary items. Their TTPs are WAY better than that.
    exactly the boys in humbolt county make their pipe bombs with tons of wicked screws and bolts and nasty items that leave the would be pot stealer dead or crippled for life ,, this is a odd bombing ,, wonder which rights are left in boston mass the citizens will be glad to give up to protect them from badly designed pipe bombs ,,,
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    Quote Originally Posted by 45acp View Post
    Still pretty incredible that the fatality count wasnt higher than it was. Hopefully that doesn't change, or not much.
    To be honest I have no idea why there weren't more either other than incompetence on the bomber's part.
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    Authorities are being pretty tight lipped about the casualties, I wouldn't be surprised if we hear a much bigger number tomorrow morning. I hope that's not the case, though. As far as bombs go it sounds like they were pretty amateur, but they were still bombs, and decently big explosions.

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    exactly the boys in humbolt county make their pipe bombs with tons of wicked screws and bolts and nasty items that leave the would be pot stealer dead or crippled for life ,, this is a odd bombing ,, wonder which rights are left in boston mass the citizens will be glad to give up to protect them from badly designed pipe bombs ,,,
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    I listen to half of what the news says and believe maybe 10% of that- no matter the organization.

    The blast pattern can be seen on the videos. If there was secondary shrapnel added those within the blast pattern would have been mowed down like turkeys in front of a shotgun. What that story is describing is essentially an improvised claymore and from the video as well as every screen capture I did form them I see no evidence of anything other than large fragmentation of the primary casing and container.
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    Mayhaps. Just reporting what was on the local here


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    As a side note- if you ever find yourself in a blast zone:

    After the initial sound, shock and blast invade your consciousness, get down and cover loved ones. Seek nearby cover (like steps away) and wait 30 seconds to a minute for potential secondary explosions (which might not be long enough). Secondary explosions can be part of a “daisy chain,” subsequent explosions designed to take out people moving in that direction to escape the primary or previous explosion. Use that time to assess you and your loved one’s injuries, and identify an escape route. Treat life threatening injuries (e.g. profusely bleeding, clear airways etc.), otherwise get your loved ones out of the area. Remember, it’s a common tactic to set up a secondary explosion to wound/kill first responders and those coming to assist the initial victims.

    If you are unaccompanied, still seek cover and wait for potential secondary explosions and then try to treat life threatening wounded and get them out of the area in the event of a secondary explosion. Listen to and assist first responders.

    Try to be super aware (if one is not already), remember what you see and maybe even record it, but not to the point of getting in the way or becoming a casualty yourself. Share with authorities.
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    Some good news- the old man whose leg I thought got tore up... just a weird camera angle!
    He made it through the blast in one piece
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