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    Default Please help: gen or rep insert?

    Hi guys,

    Hope one of you can help me out.

    Is this pepsi insert on my latest catch gen or rep?










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    Looks like my old gmt, well at least from some photos that sold a while back on RWI.
    My was sold with rep insert, it’s from Clark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dovla View Post
    Looks like my old gmt, well at least from some photos that sold a while back on RWI.
    My was sold with rep insert, itís from Clark.
    I learned on rwg.bz that this is a rep insert because of the 'hooked' two. Great lesson:

    Rolex Vintage Forum • View topic - Fake GMT Bezel Inserts

    The watch is now on the table of my watchsmith, receiving a gen insert:-)

    I have bought this watch from mrtoulouse on rwg.cc

    It had has a Phong case, gen plexi, 2893 clone eta, modded dwo with open 6s & 9s, MQ dial, gen crown, gen 78360 bracelet with a gen 93150 clasp.

    Was it yours once?

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    With those specs no it wasnít from me, specs from mine when it was sold:

    - Vietnam/Phong SCG Gen-Spec case, polished and beveled
    - Vietnam dial
    - HR Asian 2836 GMT movement
    - Clarks Bezel Assembly, polished
    - Clarks insert aged
    - GENUINE Rolex 503 Crown and Tube
    - GENUINE Rolex 25-116 Crystal
    - RT All Red Hand
    - WSO Hands
    - RT Taller pinion seconds
    - gen springbars
    - custom brass movement holder by Domi

    And few pics while I had it





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    Quote Originally Posted by dovla View Post
    With those specs no it wasnít from me, specs from mine when it was sold:

    - Vietnam/Phong SCG Gen-Spec case, polished and beveled
    - Vietnam dial
    - HR Asian 2836 GMT movement
    - Clarks Bezel Assembly, polished
    - Clarks insert aged
    - GENUINE Rolex 503 Crown and Tube
    - GENUINE Rolex 25-116 Crystal
    - RT All Red Hand
    - WSO Hands
    - RT Taller pinion seconds
    - gen springbars
    - custom brass movement holder by Domi

    And few pics while I had it





    Also a beauty!

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    Here is the thread from RWI sale, was sold to a chap from Denmark.
    They look remarkably similar

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    I think you are right, I bought it from a guy in Denmark;-)

    Thanks for this usefull info Dovla!

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    Well I hope for your sake you didnít pay more than Iíve sold it.

    And it has none of those specs you posted... dials are identical. No phong case, itís Vietnam case.

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    That raises some questions. I've sent the seller a pm to clear things up. If I have any additional questions for you I hope you will help me out.

    Thanks so far Dovla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Replica01 View Post
    That raises some questions. I've sent the seller a pm to clear things up. If I have any additional questions for you I hope you will help me out.

    Thanks so far Dovla.
    Thatís cool mate, ask if you need further info.
    Happy to provide what I can.

    Btw Yodog built the watch for me so he can surely instantly say that these dials are 1:1 identical.

    Tag him here and let him chime in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dovla View Post
    Well I hope for your sake you didn’t pay more than I’ve sold it.

    And it has none of those specs you posted... dials are identical. No phong case, it’s Vietnam case.

    Etc pp...
    I'm a bit confused. You write No phong case, and in your RWI thread it's called a Vietnam/Phong case. What is the difference?

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    From what I know, phong cases are 1500$.
    Phong buys his cases from same factory and does all the work himself, hence the price.

    Vietnam case is bought as it is and reworked by the modder and not phong himself.

    Like I said tag Yodog he can quickly and surely better give explanation.
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    Check. I've paid 1700 euro including the gen bracelet/clasp/endlinks, So i think I didn't do too bad on the price I guess.

    I wait for the reaction of the seller and if I have any questions I get back to you.

    Thanks again, I really appreciate your time and effort to help me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Replica01 View Post
    I learned on rwg.bz that this is a rep insert because of the 'hooked' two. Great lesson:

    Rolex Vintage Forum • View topic - Fake GMT Bezel Inserts

    The watch is now on the table of my watchsmith, receiving a gen insert:-)

    I have bought this watch from mrtoulouse on rwg.cc

    It had has a Phong case, gen plexi, 2893 clone eta, modded dwo with open 6s & 9s, MQ dial, gen crown, gen 78360 bracelet with a gen 93150 clasp.

    Was it yours once?

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    That insert is aftermarket, the dial is not MQ, the case looks like a standard Vietnam case, and mrtoulouse was a huge scammer who went undetected for several years. I can't see from your pics if that crystal is Rolex or if the clasp and links are either - but if you bought of mrtoulouse, you got scammed..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripdog View Post
    That insert is aftermarket, the dial is not MQ, the case looks like a standard Vietnam case, and mrtoulouse was a huge scammer who went undetected for several years. I can't see from your pics if that crystal is Rolex or if the clasp and links are either - but if you bought of mrtoulouse, you got scammed..
    Ok, thanks...:-(

    I ask my watchsmith for some pics of the movement and when I have the watch back I post pics. Hope we can solve this mistery.

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