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    Yes. He often posts one-off models he’s able to procure from his sources at a reasonable price. Sometimes, like this one, they are quartz, other times they are regular automatics. Allows you to check out a model without sinking too much money into it.


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    I can appreciate that buying replica watches probably attracts a premium but with, for instance, Citizen producing good quality watches guaranteed for 5 years for as little as £140 are replicas circa £150 to say £200 likely to be of similar quality and in the case of quartz movements likely to last for similar periods?
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    On a slightly different tack I had terrible trouble getting onto this site. Someone seemed to take umbridge at my proposed name of TheMac. It wasn't until I changed to Noob1 that they allowed me to join and to stop suggesting that I was some sort of potential scammer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noob1 View Post
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    I can appreciate that buying replica watches probably attracts a premium but with, for instance, Citizen producing good quality watches guaranteed for 5 years for as little as £140 are replicas circa £150 to say £200 likely to be of similar quality and in the case of quartz movements likely to last for similar periods?
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    No. Reps are built in dirty factories of low quality parts by people who have minimal to no training. The opposite of how genuine watches are built - even Casios and Timexes. At any price point, the gen is superior to any rep of the same price.

    Buying reps gives you the illusion of owning the real thing but for a significantly lower price. You can add reliability (up to a point) by having the movement serviced and replacing rep parts with gen bits, but you’re still dealing with a low quality build to begin with. Yes, there are exceptions, but not many. If you have £150 to spend on a watch you are better off buying a gen than any rep. But then life will be boring


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ride2live View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ride2live View Post
    No. Reps are built in dirty factories of low quality parts by people who have minimal to no training. The opposite of how genuine watches are built - even Casios and Timexes. At any price point, the gen is superior to any rep of the same price.

    Buying reps gives you the illusion of owning the real thing but for a significantly lower price. You can add reliability (up to a point) by having the movement serviced and replacing rep parts with gen bits, but you’re still dealing with a low quality build to begin with. Yes, there are exceptions, but not many. If you have £150 to spend on a watch you are better off buying a gen than any rep. But then life will be boring


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    I must say I am very impressed with your candour. I suppose I already suspected something of the background to which you relate but not just quite as bad.
    Buying a replica battery quartz initially seemed like such a clever idea especially having learnt that accurate quartz Miyota movements which are often reliable for up to 10 to 20 years, cost virtually nothing (many I understand less than £10), are often housed in replicas. That only leaves the watch housing and strap which given the price of many gen ordinary watches shouldn't normally be that much. That would leave what passibly looked pretty similar to the real thing with accuracy, reliability, next to no maintenance together with durability and at a reasonable price.
    I might still consider buying a rep but my head is starting to suggest that if the quality of the cases is sub standard that, as an exercise, it might just be a waste of money.
    I suspect that some of what you said was meant to be humorous but also contains a large element of truth.
    Many thanks again - an illuminating post.

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    If you think of reps in the context of kit cars to the real deal, you will see what i mean. A Ferrari 250GT vs the kit car version comes to mind. You can make the kit car very good, replacing poor quality parts with upgraded or genuine Ferrari parts, but since what you are starting off with is so inferior to the real, you will never have a replacement for the original that looks exactly the same. The only way you will is if you replace every non-genuine part with a genuine one, and then the cost gets prohibitive.

    People buy reps for many reasons. Some, like me, want to check out the look and wearability of a nice gen before spending the large amount of money to buy it, and then have buyers remorse because its not really what you wanted, or you dont like the way it looks on your wrist. I have bought some just to check them out before deciding, no, I dont really want to own one, and have it out of my system.

    Whether this changes your mind about owning reps, or steers you in another direction, that is now your decision and choice. It's a fun hobby for me, and i have met some great people whom i would never have met in real life, but I am under no illusion that what i am wearing or own is a substitute for the real thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ride2live View Post
    If you think of reps in the context of kit cars to the real deal, you will see what i mean. A Ferrari 250GT vs the kit car version comes to mind. You can make the kit car very good, replacing poor quality parts with upgraded or genuine Ferrari parts, but since what you are starting off with is so inferior to the real, you will never have a replacement for the original that looks exactly the same. The only way you will is if you replace every non-genuine part with a genuine one, and then the cost gets prohibitive.

    People buy reps for many reasons. Some, like me, want to check out the look and wearability of a nice gen before spending the large amount of money to buy it, and then have buyers remorse because its not really what you wanted, or you dont like the way it looks on your wrist. I have bought some just to check them out before deciding, no, I dont really want to own one, and have it out of my system.

    Whether this changes your mind about owning reps, or steers you in another direction, that is now your decision and choice. It's a fun hobby for me, and i have met some great people whom i would never have met in real life, but I am under no illusion that what i am wearing or own is a substitute for the real thing.
    Its a good reply but in the wider scheme of things I suspect that there are probably few people who would first buy replcas prior to purchasing the real thing as there are probably few who could afford the real thing anyway.
    I am not so sure that the analogy of the kit cars is quite so good. By coincidence my neice's husband builds kit cars for fun and ships them all over the world. Being from Ireland we all think we can drive but he claims
    he took a Ferrari in a race round Kirkinston on our local race track. The driver of the Ferrari took it relatively well and when comparing the price of the cars suggested that the kit car might be better value for money. They are very light and around 3.5sec to 62mph. Anyway excuse the irrelevance.
    I had a look at Tag Heuer quartz watches last night and saw that you can buy some models brand new here in the UK for £750 which doesn't seem too bad.
    Quartz movements are generally cheap - some Asian ones cost less than £0.50. I have a fear of embarrassing myself by buying a replica costing most of £200 including import duties which might contain one and the watch stopping after a year. On the other hand If I decide to buy a rep I would definitely go through Nembo. My current watch of choice is one that I think you originally suggested- an Omega Speedmaster Professional with a quartz movement.
    Appologies for the length of this post. I am sure you have better things to do with your time than listen to my musings.
    Thanks VERY much for all the input I have enjoyed the craic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noob1 View Post
    Its a good reply but in the wider scheme of things I suspect that there are probably few people who would first buy replcas prior to purchasing the real thing as there are probably few who could afford the real thing anyway.
    I am not so sure that the analogy of the kit cars is quite so good. By coincidence my neice's husband builds kit cars for fun and ships them all over the world. Being from Ireland we all think we can drive but he claims
    he took a Ferrari in a race round Kirkinston on our local race track. The driver of the Ferrari took it relatively well and when comparing the price of the cars suggested that the kit car might be better value for money. They are very light and around 3.5sec to 62mph. Anyway excuse the irrelevance.
    I had a look at Tag Heuer quartz watches last night and saw that you can buy some models brand new here in the UK for £750 which doesn't seem too bad.
    Quartz movements are generally cheap - some Asian ones cost less than £0.50. I have a fear of embarrassing myself by buying a replica costing most of £200 including import duties which might contain one and the watch stopping after a year. On the other hand If I decide to buy a rep I would definitely go through Nembo. My current watch of choice is one that I think you originally suggested- an Omega Speedmaster Professional with a quartz movement.
    Appologies for the length of this post. I am sure you have better things to do with your time than listen to my musings.
    Thanks VERY much for all the input I have enjoyed the craic.
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    It has been a pleasure discussing rep and gen watches with you as well. We all have our different philosophies and reasons for enjoying this hobby, and these may or may not evolve the more time we spend on it.

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    I have since discovered that Trusty Time sell a significant number of 'replica' quartz watches. I had previously been under the mistaken impression that such chronograph battery driven quartz watches were few and far between.
    The Hag Hueler SLR and Carreras are exactly what I would be looking for. The difficulty as I see it is that it is hard to guage just how well the watches look in practice. A shade of colour on the dials different to their photographs can transform a watch from being nice into just looking cheap. As an example photographs of some of the watches show what looks like attractive silver inner dials but which are by discription apparently white. Also some of the guarantees seem miserly at 3 to six months. Surely even a half decent £30 quartz watch should last for years.
    I came across an article on another site relating to Invicta replicas, sold by Amazon, which seem generally to be regarded as good quality, to be a fraction of the price of most of the fakes, some with 3 year guarantees and which can be returned without issue and with no or virtually no postage. (They are however coming from the UK where I am situated).
    My problem is that I am looking for a fake and not a replica.
    I suspect that alot of the Invicta watches are out sourced to China anyway. I don't mind paying a reasonable premium for a fake but someone over there must be able to replicate a similar quality watch without too much trouble and at a realistic price for the quality.
    I should be interested in anyone's comments and also to where best to purchase a fairly sound Tag Heuer.
    Thanks in anticipation.

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